andrewandCursor 47a7caac0e fix: disable PlaceAtMe spawning, use pre-placed proxies instead
ROOT CAUSE IDENTIFIED:
User found that pre-placed CK proxy HAS AI while spawned proxies DON'T.
This explains ALL the issues:
- Move() calls don't work without AIProcess
- No animations play (AI drives animation state)
- Movement is jerky (no character controller velocity management)
- AI goes neutral (proxy was never properly alive as NPC)

THE ISSUE:
PlaceAtMe spawned actors don't get proper AIProcess initialization.
They are shells without AI.

THE SOLUTION:
Disable PlaceAtMe spawning (kUsePlaceAtMeBackedRuntimeProxySpawn = false)
Use pre-placed proxy references from the Creation Kit instead.
These have full AI, character controllers, and can run naturally.

EXPECTED RESULT:
- ✅ Proxies have active AI
- ✅ Move() will work properly (AI + character controller)
- ✅ Smooth animations (velocity updates trigger animation graph)
- ✅ Natural NPC behavior (aggro state is maintained)
- ✅ No more jerky movement (continuous character controller)

NEXT:
The plugin will search for pre-placed proxy refs in the cell.
If none exist, needs fallback or user must place proxies in CK.

Co-authored-by: Cursor <cursoragent@cursor.com>
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Fallout 4 Together

Fallout 4 Together is an experimental research project exploring the possibility of adding basic multiplayer-style networking to Fallout 4.

The goal is not to create a full co-op campaign mod immediately. The first goal is much smaller:

Two Fallout 4 clients in a controlled test environment, with each player visible as a synced remote actor.

This project is currently in the research and prototype stage.

Project Goals

First Prototype

  • Load a native Fallout 4 plugin through F4SE
  • Connect to a local test server
  • Send local player position data
  • Receive remote player transform data
  • Represent another connected player using a placeholder actor
  • Restrict all testing to a custom test cell

Long-Term Ideas

  • Basic LAN multiplayer test mode
  • Remote player movement sync
  • Basic animation state sync
  • Basic chat or debug messages
  • Host-controlled test cell
  • Simple co-op combat arena

Non-Goals

This project is not currently trying to support:

  • Full Fallout 4 campaign co-op
  • Quest synchronization
  • Settlement synchronization
  • Full NPC/world state synchronization
  • VATS synchronization
  • Public server/MMO gameplay
  • Compatibility with large modlists

Those systems are extremely complex and are outside the scope of the first prototype.

Repository Layout

docs/             Project documentation and research notes
plugin/           Native F4SE/CommonLibF4 plugin work
creation-kit/     Creation Kit plugin files, Papyrus scripts, and test cell notes
server/           External multiplayer test server
protocol/         Network packet design and sync documentation
tools/            Helper scripts and utilities
test-data/        Example packets and test data
screenshots/      Development screenshots

Requirements

This project is expected to require:

  • Fallout 4 on PC
  • Fallout 4 Script Extender, F4SE
  • Fallout 4 Creation Kit
  • Visual Studio 2022 or newer
  • CMake or another supported C++ build system
  • A CommonLibF4-based plugin template
  • Git
  • A clean Fallout 4 test profile

Use a separate Fallout 4 installation or a dedicated modding profile for testing.

Recommended setup:

Fallout 4
F4SE
Creation Kit
Mod Organizer 2 or Vortex
Visual Studio
Git

Use a clean test save and avoid testing with a full personal modlist.

This repository does not include Fallout 4 game files, Bethesda assets, F4SE binaries, or any proprietary game code.

Users are responsible for owning Fallout 4 and installing required external tools themselves.

Status

Current status:

Research phase
Repository structure setup
Protocol planning
No playable multiplayer build yet

License

To be decided.

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